would didn't watch the debate will hear about romney's performance. if they are not if romney or they are undecided they will be intrigued that he took on the president and did as well as they have now heard that he did or will hear they did. the criticism being made and you heard a couple of the obama spokesman making it, that romney won because he was so well prepared and had so many practice sessions. that is what we reward people for. >>neil: debate do not have a big impact on the ultimate vote but this year, and you remind me to say it is different, this is a feeling a lot of the president's support is relatively soft, built on shifting sand. a lot of the survivors are disappointed. they would be intrigued by an alternative, as carter supporter s saw. maybe mitt romney is looking less ricky, it is not a matter of him winning over undecided voters but, possibly, possibly, possibly, president obama voters? >>guest: i doubt that will happen. i don't think that is it. >>neil: do you want me to have another ice cream bet with you? >>guest: i was tryin